So what was the deal about Minimus then? http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/92072/1.ashx
You think he snitched?
I saw you kinda pointed the finger at Minimus?
Snoozy...scratching her head...
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they might be able to kick me in the nuts, but they can't knock me out.
btw, 'catchthis' is a poser.
So what was the deal about Minimus then? http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/92072/1.ashx
You think he snitched?
I saw you kinda pointed the finger at Minimus?
Snoozy...scratching her head...
from the perspective of this imperfect world, seeing something perfect would seem quite amazing.
such as the omega particle or whatever it was called in star trek.. but what if you lived in a world (or heaven for that matter) where everything was so perfect that it was extremely predictable, and there was never any point in trying to improve anything or fight for a cause and everyone always had the perfect answer for you?.
maybe that's why "god" created the universe and maybe the universe is a perfect way of experiencing randomness?
Are you implying that the JW's would lie?
I'm sure they picked out some scripture that backed that crazy thought up.
I don't have any of their old literature but I could look in the bible..not my favorite book by the way!
I keep thinking it may be in Psalms ...to be perfect and happy..wouldn't it make sense to wipe out any remaining memories of past pain ?Or do you think they would remember so as not to repeat the same mistakes?
Snoozy..a wanna be detective...And is only quoting from what the JW's teach..and which I always had a hard time believing!
i see so many people on this board who are angry over what the witnesses took from them.
i often feel the same way, so i try to do something anti-jw every year, which seems to help.
do you know what i'm going to do this year?
Yes I did celebrate it and yes I do miss it still!
When hubby was alive(JW) I dreaded the holidays. I would feel so out of place. The kids always had me over so I could celebrate it with them but hubby gave me such a hard time it wasn't worth it to have a tree. But I have beautiful memories of our tree when I was a child. I remember staring at it and thinking that it must have come from heaven because it was so beautiful.
The kids (I call them kids even tho they are in their 40's now) celebrate full force. They too had it hard as a JW child. I never felt it was wrong..just went along with the JW's because they said not to celebrate it. I was such a wimp!
I have a hard time still even tho hubby is gone in putting up a tree..it just doesn't seem that important now. But I may change my mind..come holiday season and I start buying presents..might be fun to have them under the tree!..
Snoozy..who remembers as a child when "Downtown" used to have anitmated christmas figures in the windows and we would go see them every year and it usually snowed to make it perfect!..Can't go near Downtown now after dark..it isn't safe anymore.And the stores all have bars on the windows..no decorations.
he has been on several pain medications for his back, he is disabled with it.
he was seeing people outside his house that wasn't there.
he saw an alien in his closet and was talking to it and trying to help it cool down, he was hot himself.
I sure am glad everything worked out!
And I remember taking percodan after surgery one time. I was still a witness and I remember thinking that this must be what being perfect is like. I felt so good. I had no pain and was so very calm. They gave it to me so I could sleep through the pain..but I refused to go to sleep and waste that wonderful feeling!..But sad to say..I didn't see any pink elephants...
Good thing they moniter that stuff I could have got hooked on it real easy...
Snoozy...
i was disfellowshipped when i was 16, it really isn't clear because i stopped going to meetings, left home, etc.
i was 28 before i truly stopped believing and have grown to love every day of life i've had the privilege to live.
my mother was a missionary, my brother lives at one of the farms, one of my sisters is a special pioneer overseas and my other sister is a special pioneer in the states.. .
Do the Catholics still do that? Shun people?..I forget what they called it..excommunicated?
I never hear of it anymore. They must have got 'New Light" too.
As far as being in a different congregation. My girlfriend was disfellowshipped here but later moved to California. Many years past and she decided to get reinstated so she could find a husband..
They allowed her to do that but she had moved to another state. I don't know what they would do if you were still in the same area.
Snoozy...
ps..If your brother lives at the Watchtower Farm..I bet he knows my JW Sister and brother in law. They were always having the guys from the farm over to their house.
here in canada, it's maximum 100 km/h or 62 mph.
thats not fast enough for us quebecers.
we like driving atlest at 120km/h or 75 mph when the conditions are perfect.
I'm your worst nightmare!...
I'm the little old lady you get stuck behind doing the speed limit! Which is 55 or 60 where I live.And 65 some places.
I have been known to get it up to 70 (Legally) in the country with no traffic.
And I hate tailgaters that have plenty of room to go around if they so desire but prefer to ride my tail and complain..
And I steer clear of big rigs! They love to tailgate! When they are in an accident..they are usually the only ones to walk away. The guy they creamed is dead!
I would hate to see someone blow a tire at high speeds! It isn't worth it. Bodies hanging out of cars bring chills to my spine. I would rather be safe than sorry.I've seen too many wrecks where someone was going too fast and traffic is stopped ahead of them and they can't stop in time.
Snoozy...who likes a nice enjoyable ride without clentched knuckles...
ah, the good old days !!!
now that i'm old and gray, i can't believe the change in prices for this good stuff!
whole cheese pizza ............ 75 cents !!.
Do you remember when they only had one commercial during a TV show? Now they squeeze 5 or 7 or more quickies in the middle..a few at the beginning and a few at the end. Out of a half hour show you may get 15 to 20 minutes of actual show time.
And it seemed like just a few years ago people got Cable TV to get away from commercials..that's why we had to pay for it. Now it is as bad as or worse than reg channels. And the informercials are all over the cable. One half hour or more of uninterupted commercials...and you pay for it!..
And I never rent movies..between the Lifetime and Turner classics (that I tape because I don't have time to watch them)..I have so many tapes lined up to watch I'll never see them all.
Hubby was hooked on the "Nature Channel" and the Weather Channel.....I didn't think I could ever get sick of seeing animals or weather patterns .but I did!...
Now I can watch whatever I want! Course it's no fun watching anything when you don't have someone next to you sharing it!..So hug your mate!...
Snoozy...who remembers "Fountain soda's that tasted great!
Movies that actually showed two movies with a break in the middle to go to the lounge..and a cartoon and news clip at the beginning...
from the perspective of this imperfect world, seeing something perfect would seem quite amazing.
such as the omega particle or whatever it was called in star trek.. but what if you lived in a world (or heaven for that matter) where everything was so perfect that it was extremely predictable, and there was never any point in trying to improve anything or fight for a cause and everyone always had the perfect answer for you?.
maybe that's why "god" created the universe and maybe the universe is a perfect way of experiencing randomness?
I wonder how long it would take to see everyting there is to see and learn to do everything there is to learn.
Would it be like the movie "Ground Hog day?".
Do each day over and over till we get it right?
Possibly because we are NOT perfect we have a hard time envisioning a "Perfect world".
I personally couldn't imagine such a world. In say 5,000 years you say to your mate(If you have one) Let's go see the grand canyon..they would say..we already saw it. Would it be boring after so long a time?
And kids..after the earth would be reasonably filled..the children would stop coming..as we supposedly grow to perfection everyone would be about the same age.there would be no more mating as procreation was the only reason for it according to the bible.You know what that means..no sex!
But we would be farmers.. not herders..I doubt we would eat meat.
I wonder if the animals would die? I can't remember.
So 10,000. years go by..what kind of life would you envision?
By this time you would have to have a daily pattern. Maybe God would assign a new living area for you and tell you to move to such and such area..but that would eventually get used up and you would have to start over at a area you already lived once.
Would he wipe out our memories every so often so it would be a New experience for us?
Would he directly heal all of us and get rid of any viruses that linger after Armageddon?(Cleanning up dead bodies is a bummer for germs!)
Or appoint "Healers?"
What would happen to marriage?..In a perfect body would we need a 'Soulmate?"
We already know if someone is resurrected they will be unable to marry as they will be like the angels!
So some will live be unmarried.
Will God eventually wipe out our memories of loved ones that died and weren't JW's?
He said he would. Do you want your memory erased?
It just doesn't sound real to me...and yet..the thought of never seeing hubby again tears me up sometimes..
But it is just a fact I have to face. It is my belief!
Being perfect sounds wonderful..no death..but when you start asking questions..you start to wonder!
Almost like a life sentence without parole. No way out.
Snoozy...
do you know how to cook, even just a few simple recipes, or do you hate the idea of home cooking and prefer to always rely on restaurants and take aways, or just prepare easy snacks like sandwiches and melted cheese on toast?
Things I have learned..
Plastic gloves mean nothing unless they change them right before waiting on you!
Sometimes people discard meat they decided not to buy on other counters..like the cereal aisle. Days can go by before they are noticed..then they just put them back in the meat section for sale! (And you get a case of the stomach flu) Watch for meat that has air separating the meat from the wrapper..it has usually been exposed to heat.
If you complain in a food service establishment..don't eat the food they later bring to you! They have their own way of getting even if you complain about something they did
The fresher milk is always in the back of the row..that's why they are so hard to get to without removing 5 others.
Ever notice how cans have codes on them for expiration dates instead of actual dates? It's hard to find them that actually have a date on them.
And when I do rarely eat out..I am very cautious .I usually go to a buffet where the servers are constantly on duty behind the food so nobody can contaminate the food. And they actually remove the old tray of food before putting a new tray out. Opposed to just dumping the new food in with the old and mixing it up.
Snoozy..of the food patrol..
ah, the good old days !!!
now that i'm old and gray, i can't believe the change in prices for this good stuff!
whole cheese pizza ............ 75 cents !!.
Quentin..you must be the same age as me if you remember Royal Crown soda!
My brother used to drink that stuff like crazy. He ended up with a roll of fat around his tummy. As soon as he quit drinking it the roll of fat went away..
And gas was about the same price...10 to 20 cents. But the cars only got about 5 to 8 miles a gallon..
I do remember when I was about 17 or 18 you could buy 3 pounds of hamburger for $1.00
I used to get 50 cents allowance when I was younger and my girlfriend and I would go to our little hangout and I was able to get a big juicy hamburger..cooked fresh on the grill..a home made plate of french fries and a chocolate malt..
Anyone here know what a Pine Float consisted of?
That was hubby's favorite as a teen.
Snoozy...who knows why our eyes get worse as we get older every time she looks in a mirror!..With her reading glasses ON..
ps..And when did they start selling 4 pound bags of sugar instead of 5? at the same price..that was a sneaky trick!
When I used to go see my JW MIL in the country..they were still selling 5 pound bags at the same price or cheaper.
Do they think it's easier to pull one over on "City Folks"? I guess they think the Country folk are more into checking labels..